tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6401528799218373095.post2941716396696935777..comments2024-03-19T08:54:41.693+00:00Comments on Positive Letters ... inspirational stories ...: C is for Cattle … and Cow Cooper … Hilary Melton-Butcherhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17596532480645510678noreply@blogger.comBlogger57125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6401528799218373095.post-17147811353525668422022-07-17T09:48:35.394+01:002022-07-17T09:48:35.394+01:00Hi Hels - thanks for commenting twice - I'm le...Hi Hels - thanks for commenting twice - I'm learning to rescue comments!<br /><br />I'm glad you came across to read this ... his artwork is quite extraordinary - I loved it when I visited the Beaney House Museum in Canterbury. Having found out about Cow Cooper ... I was so interested to see your link to Jan Scheltema .. I thought Cooper might have come across him in his lifetime.<br /><br />Many thanks - HilaryHilary Melton-Butcherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17596532480645510678noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6401528799218373095.post-37522607901195220032022-07-17T06:09:43.096+01:002022-07-17T06:09:43.096+01:00It is interesting that although Cooper made his fi...It is interesting that although Cooper made his first appearance at the Royal Academy in 1833, and although I thought I had a good knowledge of 19th century British art, here is a name I did not know of. Plus he exhibited at the Royal Society of British Artists for 30 years!<br /><br />Many thanks to the link with Australian landscapers, including Jan Scheltema<br />Hels<br />https://melbourneblogger.blogspot.com/2022/07/dutch-artist-who-migrated-to-australia.htmlHelshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6401528799218373095.post-58001288511388712402017-04-16T18:18:12.124+01:002017-04-16T18:18:12.124+01:00@ Cynthia - thanks very much ... I like adding sni...@ Cynthia - thanks very much ... I like adding snippets in to my post - so there's a few extras going on; For some reason I started the alliterative effect when I started out writing the A-Zs in 2010 and it's stuck and I enjoy doing it ... that's great you enjoy the content - thank you.<br /><br />@ Lynn - Beaney House museum is a really interesting compendium of historical and artistic pieces from the Canterbury area - just adds to the Cathedral and its surrounds ... <br /><br />Cheers to you both - thanks for the visit - HilaryHilary Melton-Butcherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17596532480645510678noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6401528799218373095.post-61892292272438416052017-04-06T10:10:01.614+01:002017-04-06T10:10:01.614+01:00I would love to go inside that Beaney House and le...I would love to go inside that Beaney House and learn more - this is a great start, Hilary!Lynnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13984802196897920610noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6401528799218373095.post-74412039712755008802017-04-06T10:08:57.472+01:002017-04-06T10:08:57.472+01:00I liked the tidbit about the word, cattle, being a...I liked the tidbit about the word, cattle, being a derivative of the word, capitale.<br /><br />I also just noticed the alliterative effect you employ to conclude your posts. Appreciate your research too.Cynthia Rodrigues Manchekarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00582482381203565646noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6401528799218373095.post-60202532619152731642017-04-06T08:12:24.759+01:002017-04-06T08:12:24.759+01:00@ Monti – yes I loved writing this post – it’s my ...@ Monti – yes I loved writing this post – it’s my favourite … <br /><br />@ Diedre – I’m always amazed at how things tie in together … I guess trading a Hereford calf for a car is a good option at some stage in one’s life. <br /><br />I did write about Castles for one A-Z …?!<br /><br />@ Courtney – I’m sure it’s like a baby’s comforter – they feel safe with their clouty … until they are used to the new owner … <br /><br />@ Rhonda – oh interesting additional name for cows in NZ. They can be intimidating … we get them on the Downs sometimes and can be dodgy … yes their ‘drool’ is not very appealing is it … <br /><br />@ Ann – it’s the way they lived originally before selective breeding came in. I expect selling your old cows was a sensible arrangement for the smaller farmers … and that’s interesting to read that the SE USA used to eat more pork and chicken … I’d wondered!<br /><br />@ Marcy – good to see you … I’m sure if you’re of farming stock then you’d inherit that way of life … as has obviously happened with your family … <br /><br />Thanks so much to you all for your visits – lovely to see you and to meet a few new friends … I’ll be over ‘shortly’! Cheers Hilary<br />Hilary Melton-Butcherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17596532480645510678noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6401528799218373095.post-16754503659313285262017-04-06T07:51:26.804+01:002017-04-06T07:51:26.804+01:00My Grandpa and my Dad and then my brother raised J...My Grandpa and my Dad and then my brother raised Jersey milk cows for many years on our family farm, along with a few Herford/Jersey mixed breed steers for our beef. I grew up on milk and beef!Marcyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00336729074703850201noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6401528799218373095.post-26734203147732261832017-04-06T03:57:28.300+01:002017-04-06T03:57:28.300+01:00Interesting that you wrote they were for food at t...Interesting that you wrote they were for food at the end of their lives. This was true in the Southeastern United States. People kept cows for milk. They sold bulls and old cows. The meat was more valuable sold than eaten by the small farmers. They usually ate pork or chicken.Ann Bennetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17759967601352382204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6401528799218373095.post-80874737636590762752017-04-06T02:25:57.060+01:002017-04-06T02:25:57.060+01:00Thanks for the history on cattle. They are sometim...Thanks for the history on cattle. They are sometimes referred to as cattle beast in New Zealand. I understand the "beast" part as I find them rather intimidating. I particularly don't care for the ones that block your path, stare you down, and start swinging their heads back and forth with drool flinging off!Rhonda Albomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17455873487349816911noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6401528799218373095.post-87658349537975516602017-04-05T22:30:21.541+01:002017-04-05T22:30:21.541+01:00Why would you include part of the owner's apro...Why would you include part of the owner's apron with a Clouty cow? That's a curious bit of trivia. <a href="http://www.mauijungalow.com/" rel="nofollow">Maui Jungalow</a>Courtneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05292408696265388415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6401528799218373095.post-54635180031037483022017-04-05T22:10:51.098+01:002017-04-05T22:10:51.098+01:00Wow! I lived on a cattle ranch and never realized ...Wow! I lived on a cattle ranch and never realized a correlation between cows and capital - ha! Though I did trade a Hereford calf for a car once ;-) With all this talk about castles, one is bound to end up on my bucket list.diedre Knighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12772557495518846226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6401528799218373095.post-79634073722098630252017-04-05T20:29:56.594+01:002017-04-05T20:29:56.594+01:00The info about the cattle is intriguing. Also, I l...The info about the cattle is intriguing. Also, I love the art.Notes Along the Way with Mary Montague Sikeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17417679983279135001noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6401528799218373095.post-45401524727247133392017-04-05T07:35:25.233+01:002017-04-05T07:35:25.233+01:00@ Quiet Spirit –many thanks … glad you’re enjoying...@ Quiet Spirit –many thanks … glad you’re enjoying the posts … <br /><br />@ Gail – I feel much the same way when I start ‘looking’ at something … and I’m glad you picked up the “Sir Loin” and “caput” .. <br /><br />@ Jacqui – that I hadn’t come across … but the Aztecs, Mayans, Anisazi presumably had different ways of farming or domesticating animals … but glad the three aspects helped … <br /><br />@ Denise – yes ‘Sir Join’– who knew – well many of us do now …<br /><br />@ Jo – there are varieties of the silly type of ‘Sir Loin’ tale that have made it into ‘history’. You’re right – we don’t consider which breed the meat has come from … here in the UK they are demanding better and fuller details … <br /><br />@ Bookworm – Dexters are a Recovering Rare Breed – they originally came from Ireland and are half the size of a Hereford –somewhat easier to handle … as you say a wonderful breed, small and gentle … <br /><br />@ Nick – yes ‘chattel’ is another of those words derived from the Latin ‘capitalis’ (of the head) .. so thanks for that thought!<br /><br />@ Troutbirder – I’m sure there are many breeds of cow in the States … white ones stand out don’t they … <br /><br />@ Joanne – thank you so much … just glad you’re enjoying the series … <br /><br />@ Jess – yes lots of ‘C’s … couldn’t resist Cow Cooper. It was only in the recent centuries it was realised the need for some selection – I’m glad my post made some historical sense … <br /><br />@ Sharon – these are the Rare Breeds … so I don’t mention the other ‘normal’ breeds – yes our ancestors used the meat as best they could and to their knowledge of the day … <br /><br />@ CD – yes … knighted cows – but as a spoof or joke – the way we’ll develop a silly story to remember an incident – no harm intended … but Sir Loin has proliferated a few jokes over the years … I’m afraid the idea probably came out of tomfoolery in the late hours … exactly as you say!<br /><br />@ Arleen – they are lovely and certainly Mr Cooper knew how to paint … those art works seen in real life are amazing … <br /><br />@ Liz – well thankfully we’ve realised the error of our ways re specialisation – too much is not a good thing … <br /><br />@ JJ – well I was unfamiliar with it too – just glad you’re enjoying the reading you’ve read so far … <br /><br />@ Paula – I don’t think many of us have … but we’re beginning to realise there’s more to meat than just having something to eat … we need to get it to our plate … <br /><br />@ DG – they were vaguely on my radar, but I’ve learnt rather a lot doing these posts … but it was really Cow Cooper who set me on my way … <br /><br />Cheers to you all – lovely comments and thoughts - Hilary<br />Hilary Melton-Butcherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17596532480645510678noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6401528799218373095.post-23247565134579741612017-04-05T07:06:28.991+01:002017-04-05T07:06:28.991+01:00I like the paintings of the animals, but I'll ...I like the paintings of the animals, but I'll admit, I know next to nothing about the breeds. It's never been on my radar.D.G. Hudsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06213237734772028645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6401528799218373095.post-89087172355097436812017-04-05T05:02:29.140+01:002017-04-05T05:02:29.140+01:00I can honestly say I have never given much thought...I can honestly say I have never given much thought to cattle. Except for a juicy steak or a nice hamburger!!Paulahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17406717262345866373noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6401528799218373095.post-28406493042950791902017-04-05T04:33:31.509+01:002017-04-05T04:33:31.509+01:00Hilary: This is an area with which I am totally un...Hilary: This is an area with which I am totally unfamiliar. I now have some interesting reading to do. Thank you!JJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14692103477055483000noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6401528799218373095.post-10392597116666578852017-04-05T02:20:31.332+01:002017-04-05T02:20:31.332+01:00Used to be that critters did more. But then we got...Used to be that critters did more. But then we got all specialized... Not a good thing, really.Liz A.https://www.blogger.com/profile/16531953467834426316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6401528799218373095.post-1007933355431303552017-04-05T02:10:49.355+01:002017-04-05T02:10:49.355+01:00What beautiful creatures they are.What beautiful creatures they are.Starting Over, Accepting Changes - Maybehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06032033918798053005noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6401528799218373095.post-50803998325673024142017-04-05T02:05:52.841+01:002017-04-05T02:05:52.841+01:00Did I read that correctly? Did you say they knight...Did I read that correctly? Did you say they knighted cows?<br /><br />I guess the English know how to get drunk and foolish, too.C.D. Gallant-Kinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01080400727631587101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6401528799218373095.post-20449774169655008312017-04-05T00:57:31.962+01:002017-04-05T00:57:31.962+01:00Pioneer cows...so cool, Hilary. It makes sense tha...Pioneer cows...so cool, Hilary. It makes sense that cows were used more for work and as a source of milk at first. Killing for meat would have been a waste of a perfectly good resource. Some would say this is still true. <br /><br /> #AtoZChallenge<br />"Female Scientists Before Our Time" <br /><a href="http://shells-tales-sails.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">Shells–Tales–Sails</a><br />Sharon Himslhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08835934582653243661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6401528799218373095.post-35927700111896518232017-04-05T00:31:50.456+01:002017-04-05T00:31:50.456+01:00Lots of Cs here today! I had no idea that cattle w...Lots of Cs here today! I had no idea that cattle weren't selectively breeded until the 1700s. Reading the history you gave it makes sense. Nice that some endangered species are making their way back. Thanks for sharing. :) <br />~JessDMShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04202502753961748992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6401528799218373095.post-38269471803937229792017-04-05T00:14:11.789+01:002017-04-05T00:14:11.789+01:00as always your research and presentation is impecc...as always your research and presentation is impeccable. All quite compelling....moo!!!Joannehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11604494404874408870noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6401528799218373095.post-69182772557487153682017-04-04T23:42:37.340+01:002017-04-04T23:42:37.340+01:00Fascinating. I have seen some White Cattle here th...Fascinating. I have seen some White Cattle here the States but I don't know exactly what breed...troutbirderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14087811292280881959noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6401528799218373095.post-90462225348276751762017-04-04T23:26:49.114+01:002017-04-04T23:26:49.114+01:00Glad some of those breeds are making a comeback. I...Glad some of those breeds are making a comeback. I wonder if "chattel" is related too? An item of property sold for money.Nick Wilfordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03841776353790635132noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6401528799218373095.post-52101750164039106702017-04-04T22:54:47.451+01:002017-04-04T22:54:47.451+01:00We have Dexter cattle here in upstate New York. T...We have Dexter cattle here in upstate New York. There is a farm in the Finger Lakes that makes a delicious cheese with Dexter milk and we were privileged to be able to visit the farm several years ago. They are a wonderful breed, small and gentle. The Unknown Journey Ahead agingonthespectrum.blogspot.combookwormhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06589840841266507266noreply@blogger.com