tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6401528799218373095.post8145851178549541890..comments2024-03-28T22:25:01.210+00:00Comments on Positive Letters ... inspirational stories ...: Rosewater Dish … or Venus Rosewater Trophy at the Wimbledon Tennis Championships … Hilary Melton-Butcherhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17596532480645510678noreply@blogger.comBlogger44125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6401528799218373095.post-26280357892208497632017-07-27T18:57:32.655+01:002017-07-27T18:57:32.655+01:00Hi Lynn - the ladies' trophy is stunning isn&#...Hi Lynn - the ladies' trophy is stunning isn't it ... and I'm just glad you enjoy reading the posts and picking up some interesting snippets ... and that next year you'll watch Wimbledon a little more closely ... cheers HilaryHilary Melton-Butcherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17596532480645510678noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6401528799218373095.post-27801312435070264772017-07-27T17:49:55.813+01:002017-07-27T17:49:55.813+01:00The trophy is so beautiful. I always learn somethi...The trophy is so beautiful. I always learn something new when I read your posts - I'll be sure to watch Wimbledon a little more closely next year.Lynnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13984802196897920610noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6401528799218373095.post-63732123480691286952017-07-19T18:50:46.313+01:002017-07-19T18:50:46.313+01:00@ Deniz - yes .. I don't know how you get hold...@ Deniz - yes .. I don't know how you get hold of one of those towels - except to be there and manage to grab one - luck, I guess ...<br /><br />Owning a salver as decorative as that would be amazing -just beautiful and wonderful to behold ... <br /><br />@ Rosey - yes surprising isn't it that 'Venus' appears on her dish - or what was her salver ... I bet they know ... <br /><br />@ Sage - thanks ... amazing some members of the family get up so early - but am glad you can pass on your knowledge from this post ...<br /><br />Cheers to you - and thanks for visiting ... HilaryHilary Melton-Butcherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17596532480645510678noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6401528799218373095.post-21318649224903394312017-07-19T17:55:50.721+01:002017-07-19T17:55:50.721+01:00As Wimbledon is on in my house all day (some, not ...As Wimbledon is on in my house all day (some, not me get up at 4 AM to watch), I learned something new in your post. Thanks! sagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17499891950639742366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6401528799218373095.post-70769710963621356302017-07-19T16:39:15.430+01:002017-07-19T16:39:15.430+01:00That is pretty awesome that 'Venus' is on ...That is pretty awesome that 'Venus' is on there. I bet Venus and those in her circle noted it at one time or another. :)mail4roseyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17850985344834209198noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6401528799218373095.post-40220797875946316342017-07-19T07:20:13.407+01:002017-07-19T07:20:13.407+01:00Ooh, I hadn't known about all that history con...Ooh, I hadn't known about all that history connected with the trophy. I love silver salvers -- I wish I had more use for them in daily life to justify actually owning a couple :-)<br />One thing I might do... Is get one of those Wimbledon towels. They always look so clean and fluffy and large -- I just want to bundle up in one!Deniz Bevanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17134553551048836979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6401528799218373095.post-39448807596589033382017-07-19T06:42:48.789+01:002017-07-19T06:42:48.789+01:00@ Shannon - it is rather lovely isn't it. Fas...@ Shannon - it is rather lovely isn't it. Fascinating to read of your Moroccan restaurant using rosewater to wash your hands in ... that must have given off a lovely fragrance before your meal.<br /><br />@ Annalisa - it is so amazing in its detail and depth of depiction ... <br /><br />@ Karen - you could see highlights - but I must say it's never quite the same as watching at the time. There were some incredible matches though. Glad you enjoyed the snippets of info re the Rosewater dish ... <br /><br />@ Misha - I knew there was a lot of detail on the dish, but had no idea of the representations of it ... <br /><br />@ Sandra - the two trophies are incredible and yes the creativity in making them is quite extraordinary. I only watch Wimbledon, Queens and some Eastbourne, and perhaps the finals of the other majors ...otherwise I don't hang on the tv watching sport ... <br /><br />@ Guilie - good to see you - well it was certainly well worth finding out about, the classical information is extraordinary ... <br /><br />@ Damyanti - it's so interesting how things have developed over the centuries ... and washing one's hands was a relatively recent event - strange but true ... I'm happy it made you smile ... <br /><br />Cheers to you all ... HilaryHilary Melton-Butcherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17596532480645510678noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6401528799218373095.post-13702610641832011102017-07-19T04:08:33.048+01:002017-07-19T04:08:33.048+01:00Why - Rosewater dish – it was a ceremonial platter...Why - Rosewater dish – it was a ceremonial platter used after eating to catch warm or cold Rosewater poured from ewers over the hands to wash them … a daily ceremony amongst royalty and the nobility until the advent of soap and water. <br /><br /><br />Thanks for that factoid. I was smiling as I read it.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.damyantiwrites.com" rel="nofollow">Damyanti</a>Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04283371140346602856noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6401528799218373095.post-85165382137000867082017-07-19T03:42:21.175+01:002017-07-19T03:42:21.175+01:00What a fabulous piece of history you've uneart...What a fabulous piece of history you've unearthed here, Hilary—I love finding out where these trophies and other famous standards of our modern age come from. Thanks for that! (And for the visit over at <a href="http://guilie-castillo-oriard.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow"> Quiet Laughter </a> earlier this month... Sorry it took me so long to come visit you.)<br />GuilieGuilie Castillohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09006999087139126972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6401528799218373095.post-85677771519015384602017-07-19T01:21:03.205+01:002017-07-19T01:21:03.205+01:00The salvers are stunning. The artisans that made ...The salvers are stunning. The artisans that made them were incredibly creative. <br />Sounds like you now have options for watching competitive tennis:)<br />YOU, have a great one:)Sandra Coxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03814573408898140885noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6401528799218373095.post-59161623228633431072017-07-18T22:29:09.967+01:002017-07-18T22:29:09.967+01:00Interesting! I never realized the detail on the tr...Interesting! I never realized the detail on the trophy, but then I'm not really much of a tennis watcher.Misha Gerrickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06364173848456424521noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6401528799218373095.post-24368630702652451752017-07-18T19:24:40.116+01:002017-07-18T19:24:40.116+01:00It is a stunning trophy, and represents such great...It is a stunning trophy, and represents such great tradition. I didn't catch any of Wimbledon this year. We usually see at least a bit but have had too much going on. Guess I could see highlight online, couldn't I? :) Thanks for sharing these wonderful tidbits and history - so interesting! Have a great rest of the week! Karen Langehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18177923284595298347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6401528799218373095.post-79040224810173365652017-07-18T14:14:25.005+01:002017-07-18T14:14:25.005+01:00It's beautiful, such detail in the design.It's beautiful, such detail in the design.Annalisa Crawfordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14943610814274794998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6401528799218373095.post-74361510096705406652017-07-18T08:47:45.337+01:002017-07-18T08:47:45.337+01:00What a neat history of Rosewater. The trophy may b...What a neat history of Rosewater. The trophy may be a reproduction, but it's lovely. Random side fact: There was a Moroccan restaurant here that had us wash our hands in rosewater before our meals. Quite enjoyable.Shannon Lawrencehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00934641808195675935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6401528799218373095.post-38723682373132387102017-07-18T08:16:11.078+01:002017-07-18T08:16:11.078+01:00@ Keith - thanks ... I've saved the men's ...@ Keith - thanks ... I've saved the men's trophy info for next year ... but as a chef the pineapple should ring historical bells for you? Wonderful day yesterday ... and I'm sure the scarecrows were impressive - I've seen a few of them; I think there's a big burn up of them at Sharnfolds on Saturday ... <br /><br />@ Lee - like you .. I knew the salver was stunning to look at - but hadn't checked out the hows and whys of its munificence. There were some outstanding matches this year - the tennis seems to have gone up a notch. I will watch or have the sports I enjoy on the radio or tv while I do other things ... but can do without them.<br /><br />@ Spacer Guy - good to see you - and yes knowing more about the history of the salver then sets one off (well it does me!) on looking up other things! During two weeks - there's always things I find out.<br /><br />@ Emily - so glad I've brought a little 'enlightenment' to the Wimbledon Rosewater Dish ... it's fascinating the artistry that is encompassed in particularly this piece - it must be a delight to see ... <br /><br />@ Pat - the Dish itself is only 150 years old or so; I agree testing food before others actually got to eat their meal is a bit much, but necessary for the Emperor, noble head of the house or other luminary with lots of enemies ... not good for the taster if it was poisoned. <br /><br />I feel certain the replica which is given to the winners (the original is handed back!) will have a presentation leaflet with it - explaining its origins etc and the details ... <br /><br />@ Susan - that's good you were able to see some of the matches. I agree tremendous athletes ... incredible how they improved over the decades - the work they put in to being so flexible, having great eye-hand co-ordination etc.<br /><br />I see I didn't put the dates in - remiss of me ... the men's championship started in 1877, while the women had their own from 1884, when the men's doubles was also added; the ladies' doubles and mixed events were included in 1913.<br /><br />@ Nila - yes salva goes into salvage - but salvage itself only came about in the middle ages - through the French salvage (old French) 'salver' "to save" - from the 1400s ... <br /><br />So glad the tiny extra snippets resonate with you ... and how wonderful your father still enjoys his tennis ... my mother in those last years enjoyed the tennis - we'd watch together ... happy memories for us both...<br /><br />Cheers to you all - have lovely rest of the week - HilaryHilary Melton-Butcherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17596532480645510678noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6401528799218373095.post-15315743599234581412017-07-18T06:57:21.577+01:002017-07-18T06:57:21.577+01:00Salva - must be the root of salvage too? Your post...Salva - must be the root of salvage too? Your posts always delight with unknown gems of info...Wimbledon is a must watch (on the box) for family father never misses it even at 85+<br /><br />Have a blissful week!Nilanjana Bosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08656370320322301943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6401528799218373095.post-88106616077744135682017-07-18T00:34:25.286+01:002017-07-18T00:34:25.286+01:00We watched a lot of the matches off and on. What t...We watched a lot of the matches off and on. What tremendous athletes. Nice to know the ladies were 'allowed' to participate from the 1800's. Susan Gourley/Kelleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02669793865290876168noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6401528799218373095.post-79903160937904669832017-07-17T20:02:32.075+01:002017-07-17T20:02:32.075+01:00Wow, sure been around a while indeed. I'd hate...Wow, sure been around a while indeed. I'd hate to have the food tester's job, makes mine look great in comparison lol Never knew there was such mythology woven into. Bet most winners don't even know.Pat Hatthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07745293224202430152noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6401528799218373095.post-78653416113682501792017-07-17T19:36:28.810+01:002017-07-17T19:36:28.810+01:00Hi Hilary, The few times I have watched the champi...Hi Hilary, The few times I have watched the championship match, I wondered why the winner received a salver. Thank you for the lovely description of it and the history behind them. <br /><br />EmilyEmily in Ecuadorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06046387339831440902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6401528799218373095.post-30263828041897962842017-07-17T18:49:08.004+01:002017-07-17T18:49:08.004+01:00Hi Hilary, Knowing the rich historical background ...Hi Hilary, Knowing the rich historical background of the sterling silver is fascinating and gives you something to think about really as the tennis ball bounces from one end of the court until finally...game set and matchSpacerGuyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05575342869714342370noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6401528799218373095.post-53348199368836633792017-07-17T15:51:02.711+01:002017-07-17T15:51:02.711+01:00The history of the salver is fascinating. I've...The history of the salver is fascinating. I've seen it in pictures but never thought about the significance of the design. I didn't see this year's Wimbledon, but I love watching tennis. It's the only sport I enjoy on TV. Interesting results this year.cleemckenziehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15456109243453726483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6401528799218373095.post-66920504835036751192017-07-17T11:04:20.723+01:002017-07-17T11:04:20.723+01:00I'd never even considered the story behind the...I'd never even considered the story behind the trophy. I'm yet to discover why the men's trophy has a pineapple on top! Right, I'm off scarecrow spotting in Pevensey Bay!<br /><br /><a href="https://keithsramblings.blogspot.co.uk" rel="nofollow">Click to visit Keith's Ramblings</a><br />Keith's Ramblingshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13564578491652021492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6401528799218373095.post-3865151706494170152017-07-17T07:17:11.460+01:002017-07-17T07:17:11.460+01:00@ Kim - it is a stunning piece of work isn't i...@ Kim - it is a stunning piece of work isn't it ... I can't see why it came to be presented to the Women's Champion ... but must have been to provide a trophy of a high class that matched the Men's trophy. And somehow it was the item chosen ... it was the work of art of the time period - highly regarded workmanship. I now haven't played tennis for years ... but still enjoy watching Wimbledon.<br /><br />@ Jo - thankfully we still get it here and enjoy watching when I can. I was out or away over the two weekend days ... so missed most of the finals. Glad you thought it worthwhile to read up about the trophy ... <br /><br />@ Jacqui - Wimbledon's always been something I've enjoyed ... but am happy you enjoyed reading up on the silver salver.<br /><br />@ Joanne - so many of us love watching the tournament ... and yes I might put in for tickets to attend again one year. I didn't see Venus' match - but she was certainly well and truly beaten by Garbine ... it's good to read your comments as I wasn't here to see the match. Also Venus has that disease that must sap her energy ... <br /><br />@ Susan - I watch some of the tennis when I'm around ... and on occasion the odd bit of golf - but I'm not stuck watching the tournaments. I'm sure some of the players and winners will find out about and have an interest in the history of the two trophies ... I expect when they get their replicas there will be an informative cover sheet included.<br /><br />@ Robert - Wimbledon started before the Olympics came into being ... and must have been very prestigious in 1877 - hence these incredible trophies being awarded to the two championship winners.<br /><br />@ Liz - the Venus Rosewater Dish has an interesting history as a work of art ... <br /><br />Cheers to you all - have very good weeks - Hilary<br /><br /><br /><br />Hilary Melton-Butcherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17596532480645510678noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6401528799218373095.post-40881675654547124612017-07-17T04:13:27.767+01:002017-07-17T04:13:27.767+01:00I had no idea what it was called. Thanks for this....I had no idea what it was called. Thanks for this.Liz A.https://www.blogger.com/profile/16531953467834426316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6401528799218373095.post-32187161388414988942017-07-16T20:03:07.318+01:002017-07-16T20:03:07.318+01:00This is actually pretty cool. It feels like someth...This is actually pretty cool. It feels like something that would be more about the Olympics than Tennis.H.R. Bennetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01462784064936801201noreply@blogger.com